In Part Two on higher education Dr Koontz and Rev Fisk talk about the introduction of the Prussian Model and state-controlled universities replacing the in-group networking centers of the colleges in early America. They continue to discuss the things needed for a community to survive. Koontz and Fisk stress why it is so important for a cohesive group to be able to teach its own leaders.
Dr Koontz - Agrarian, Egghead -  Concordia Theological Seminary Fort Wayne
Rev Fisk - Author, Fanatic - St Paul Rockford
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